ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV refit

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ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV refit

Postby CarlLinkenbagh » 31 Mar 2018 21:10

Russian ship fans are probably aware of the major refit of the third Kirov class cruiser ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV in Severodvinsk which has been going on for a few years now. According to internet sources she was meant to be completed this year but delivery has been pushed back to 2021. For many reasons this isn't surprising, not least of which are that she's a huge ship and the scope of work is massive.

This has to be the most comprehensive refit of a surface combatant in recent times which makes it particularly interesting. The ex-ADMIRAL GORSHKOV (now the INS VIKRAMADITYA) got similar treatment at Sevmash a few years back - in one of the most fascinating Project Management case studies you can find - but she was a carrier, not a missile cruiser.

It's effectively a 'bare metal' rebuild. From videos on YouTube (most of which are in Russian, but worth a look all the same) it looks as though she's pretty much been gutted from stem to stern and will effectively be brand new when she emerges from the dockyard, complete with the very latest in Russian weapons, sensors and systems. Of particular significance is the removal of the SS-N-19 system which was the Kirov class' primary ASuW weapon.

I've been fishing around trying to find some renderings or images of what she'll look like when she's complete. If anyone has anything, please post. Cheers :D
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Re: ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV refit

Postby MikeJames » 01 Apr 2018 17:52

Given the current state of the Russian economy, it's probably going to be a very delayed refit.
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Re: ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV refit

Postby CarlLinkenbagh » 01 Apr 2018 19:19

MikeJames wrote:Given the current state of the Russian economy, it's probably going to be a very delayed refit.


Very true Mike. Apparently PETER THE GREAT is going to follow her into Sevmash once she's out of the dock and receive the same upgrades and modernisation. That's an extremely ambitious target for any Navy to take on. It's particularly so when you remember that these are the largest surface combatants in the world and they're both in excess of 20 years old.

Did you follow the ADMIRAL GORSHKOV conversion? I read an 'official statement' online from a senior Sevmash official which, in response to questions concerning the severe cost and schedule overruns, said "The Indian Navy originally paid for a Lada. They're asking for a Mercedes". That cracked me up!
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Re: ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV refit

Postby MikeJames » 02 Apr 2018 09:26

Some of the reasons the Russian refit of the Indian carrier went on so long was that the Russian shipyard workers, who hadn't been paid properly for years, stole all the copper piping and cabling out of the ship to sell on the black market.

They also stole much of the new cabling straight out of the warehouse. Not to mention stealing everything that wasn't bolted down and guarded.

The Indians apparently demanded the Russians stop the theft and recover the material but the Russians just shrugged and demanded the Indians pay for more materials. The Indians swore they would never refit another ship in Russia.

As for the Russian economy, the IMF states the Russian economy is the world's 12th largest with a GDP of US$1,469,341,000 or 1.47 Trillion

Australia is number 13 with a GDP of US$1,390,150,000 or 1.4 trillion.

We do that on a far smaller and less productive land mass (17.1 million km² vs 7.692 million km²) and less than 20% of the population (143,964,709 vs 24,772,247).

The other big difference? Our economy keeps growing, Russia's is stagnating.

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Re: ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV refit

Postby rritchie71 » 04 Apr 2018 13:31

Interesting Info, I wonder if this will impact Peter the Great's availability. She is an active ship, even by western standards and her mid life refit was originally scheduled this year (1998-2018) which included refueling her reactor. Wonder if she has enough left to postpone the refueling for 3 years and keep up the same tempo.

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Re: ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV refit

Postby MikeJames » 04 Apr 2018 15:31

As an aside, I read today that the Ukraine government has directed that the last Slava class cruiser, the almost completed Ukraina, be scrapped and the funds realised from her scrapping be used to pay the shipyard workers their outstanding back pay and the remainder be used to acquire a number of second-hand western frigates.

Apparently given most of the weapon systems and electronics are made and supported by Russian companies, the Ukrainian's realise they have no chance of ever bringing Ukraina into service.

Perhaps a number of ex-RN Type 23 frigates might become available?

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